[NetBehaviour] looking back in time into absences

Tue Dec 28 00:37:11 UTC 2021

Hi Johannes,

I don't think the engineer was arrogant at all; given the enormous
parameters and difficulty of the launch, it's fantastic. And yes, the
telescope is meant to look back into billions of years, 13+, given that I
think it's around 14 billion or somewhat under - this will give us an
indication of the various origin models, more information (I think) about
dark matter, the overall structure of the universe, all these things to put
us in perspective, if we listen. It's primarily infrared, and it records
than at much longer wavelengths that can reach us with more information
than the usual visual spectrum. It will complement gravitation wave
astronomy on one end and radio astronomy as well; the more is seen, the
more can be learned. There are a lot of great accounts online about what it
means and NASA had a two hour program carried on space.com which must be
available on YouTube, explaining all of this during the launch. Sometimes,
just briefly, the world feels filled with wonder...

love Alan and Happy Holidays, if such is possible, and even if not, to
everyone -

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 6:32 PM Johannes Birringer via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> dear all
> Alan's writing has made me want to throw out a question about looking back
> (not Wittgenstein in the imaginary car, this time).
>
> >
> you feel absence. absence is no longer silent, disappeared, beyond
> the pale. you are beyond the pale...
> >
>
> if we are beyond such pale, as I think it's true to say, then what are the
> space agencies up to with their 10 billion dollar J Webb Telescope?
> I arrived in Houston a few days ago, and my old NASA friends talk about
> it, somewhat vividly, but I realize I'd been unawares. So this telescope
> is meant to look back into a deep past, millions of years? near the
> beginnings of the universe, following fossilized light?
> how does that work - do we have astronomers amongst us? And what are they
> trying to find?
>
> ps. on the monitors that track the flight of Ariane 5 rocket, the yellow
> line exactly followed its programmed green path. Meticulously.
> The chief scientist/inventor of this nicely designed gadget was asked if
> he'd be nervous during the launch and deployment, and he surprised everyone
> by simply saying "No, not nervous, interested. We've broached every problem
> that we can foresee, when you see a problem you develop a plan to overcome
> it and we've done that. So this is a test of whether we came up with the
> right answers."
>
> So this is an interested engineer's arrogant response, I'd guess?
>
>
> regards
> Johannes Birringer
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________
> From: NetBehaviour <netbehaviour-bounces at lists.netbehaviour.org> on
> behalf of Alan Sondheim <sondheim at panix.com>
> Sent: 26 December 2021 22:29
>
> Text for forthcoming video on technology and testament
>
> name AI
>
> http://www.alansondheim.org/breathing.jpg
>
> sun 00 00:00:00 0000 it's dirty everywhere, isn't it? the world
> is dry here. liquid is necessary for life / at least for the
> activities of life. what remains pooled, desiccated, goes
> nowhere. the skin shrivels; there are scars, blemishes. you're
> never the same again. you hang by your hands tethered to the
> ceiling. nothing is out of reach.sun 00 00:00:00 0000 skin world
> skin postures. yes yes yes.sun 00 00:00:00 0000 the posture of
> your skin is not your own. not your body. you learn here: you
> feel absence. absence is no longer silent, disappeared, beyond
> the pale. you are beyond the pale. your absence gnaws at you,
> devours you. you feel skinned. elsewhere "that goes on." you
> ride nothing. nothing. for the first time in your life you smell
> yourself constantly. the taste of you. liquids and solids.
> everything leaves. what falls to the ground. you. someone smells
> you. on the ground you smell. sun 00 00:00:00 0000 dirty you.
> dirty jew. even i was called that. you put a pignose in my bed.
> ai knows that: i enter it in a matrix. no one saves concerns.
> for the rest of my life. around the same time: a broken nose.
> you did that too. sun 00 00:00:00 0000 do i write here in this
> broken space. bone bone and bone. for the first time. there are
> lots of them. i do not acknowledge breath. afterthought of my
> breathing. death of it.sun 00 00:00:00 0000 have you ever looked
> into dead eyes. here. now. the space. the window like a space
> filled with letters: i arm myself. i arm myself with you. i
> arm.sun 00 00:00:00 0000 es i hiss. nameless, hiss. */this is
> the text of the thinking through piece of ai, artificial
> intelligence, in useless confrontation with holocaust and
> genocide, with brand new lexicon and rules for its application.
> ++++++ sun 00 00:00:00 0000 what now... sun 00 00:00:00 0000
>
> , my name is Hannah Arendt
> , my name is
> , my name is Wilfred Owen
> , my name is Jean Amery
> , my name is Viktor Frankl
> , my name is Paul Celan
> , my name is
> , my name is Behrouz Boochani
> , my name is Anne Frank
> , my name is anonymous
> , my name is Viktor Klemperer
> , my name is
> , my name is Primo Levi
>
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> Jean
>
> hello, my name is hannah arendt
> hello, my name is
> hello, my name is wilfred owen
> hello, my name is jean amery
> hello, my name is viktor frankl
> hello, my name is paul celan
> hello, my name is
> hello, my name is behrouz boochani
> hello, my name is anne frank
> hello, my name is anonymous
> hello, my name is viktor klemperer
> hello, my name is
> hello, my name is primo levi
>
> my my frankl name my anonymous my primo hello, name frank name
> is amery name name hello, hello, my my viktor name is name
> hello, my owen name celan boochani name my is is my hello, is
> hello, name levi is my anne my my jean hello, hello, name is
> boochani hello, is hello, name my my is my viktor my hello,
> anonymous is my my amery name name anne name is levi name hello,
> name is hello, name name levi hello, my behrouz paul my owen my
> name hello, name frankl name name my my is name hello, paul is
> hello, is my primo hello, is my name viktor hello, my levi
> klemperer hello, name is hello, is arendt hannah my jean my
> hello, is name name hannah wilfred name celan boochani my viktor
> name name klemperer name boochani hello, is owen arendt is is
> anne my my jean name hannah arendt is amery name my frank viktor
> primo hello, hello, viktor my hello, is hello, is my viktor
> hello, behrouz paul my is is my my name is hello, is my is
> hello, wilfred my paul is my hello, levi name my frankl is name
> anonymous my primo hello, name frank name is amery name name
> hello, hello, my my viktor my is name hello, my hello, name
> celan boochani name my is is my hello, is hello, name levi is my
> anne my my jean hello, hello, name is boochani hello, is hello,
> name hello, my is my viktor my hello, anonymous is my my amery
> name name anne name hello, levi my hello, name is hello, name
> name levi hello, my behrouz paul my owen my name hello, name
> frankl name name my my is is hello, paul is hello, is my primo
> hello, is my name viktor hello, my levi klemperer hello, name is
> hello, is arendt hannah my jean my hello, anne name name hannah
> wilfred name celan boochani my viktor name name klemperer name
> boochani hello, is owen arendt is is anne hello, my jean name
> hannah arendt is amery name name frank viktor primo hello,
> hello, viktor my hello, is hello, is my viktor hello, behrouz
> paul my is is my my name is hello, is my is hello, wilfred my
> paul is my hello, levi name name frankl is name anonymous my
> primo hello, name frank name is amery my my is hello, my my
> viktor my is name hello, name hello, name celan boochani name my
> is is my hello, is hello, name is my is my my jean hello, hello,
> name is boochani hello, is hello, name hello, my is my viktor my
> hello, anonymous is my my amery name name frank name hello, levi
> my anonymous name is hello, name name levi hello, my behrouz
> paul my owen my name hello, name frankl name name my my is is
> hello, paul is hello, is my is hello, is my my viktor hello,
> hello, primo viktor hello, name is hello, is arendt hannah name
> jean
>
> +++
>
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