[NetBehaviour] Expulsion, Refuge, Wittgenstein, Pirke Avot

[Alan Sondheim]

Sshhhhhhhhhhh.... I try to be deep but I fail! :-(

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 1:59 PM Edward Picot via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> I love this. What was that you said about not being able to write poetry?
>
> On 05/01/2021 22:09, Alan Sondheim wrote:
> >
> >
> > Expulsion, Refuge, Wittgenstein, Pirke Avot
> >
> > http://www.alansondheim.org/tlp.jpg
> >
> > Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus
> > Expulsion as the foundation of organization.
> >
> > Neither this nor that:::
> > Not both this and that:::
> >
> > The rest of the structure of propositional logic follows suit.
> >
> > "Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darueber muss man schweigen."
> > - What we cannot speak about, we must pass over in silence.
> > (trans. Pears and McGuinness)
> > - Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent.
> > (trans. Ogden)
> >
> > How does this tally with refugee status? For if we do not speak
> > up, then we are complicit. I think of TLP in relation at this
> > point in time to the necessity of speech. What about W's
> > sexuality, his Judaism? His Catholicism?
> >
> > "The family appeared to have a strong streak of depression
> > running through it." (Wikipedia)
> >
> > The clarity of the work, clean and proper body, architecture -
> > "Music came to a full stop with Brahms; and even in Brahms I can
> > begin to hear the noise of machinery." ibid. But this is not
> > Kristeva's body (Powers of Horror); it's something else. The
> > clarity sought disappears in the later work, color for example,
> > on mathematics, all indeterminate, create a great deal of noise.
> >
> > So a deliberate misreading of W. for which I ask forgiveness;
> > it is worth it, is it, to consider as well the tawdry, sleazy,
> > abject, decrepit, miasmatic, leakage of the chora? For even in
> > considerations of color (or colour, and what might that add or
> > detract?), one might imagine a clean room, not for example a
> > football pitch.
> >
> > Once you have A, B - distinction, then expulsion. Or just A for
> > example, Not both A & A and therefore everything else; Neither A
> > nor A, neti neti ghost both, therefore everything else. Or at
> > least within the aegis of the operation, the potential of
> > everything else: who knows?
> >
> > [The _humanization_ of propositional logic, here a deliberate
> > misreading. And do not forget the TLP in its entirety; too often
> > there are 'breezy' misreadings jumping to the last sections, as
> > if the rest is irrelevant; it isn't; it's the describable world.]
> >
> > What is expelled, what is annihilated, what is discarded, what is
> > deprecated, what is forgotten, what is lost ::
> > Who is expelled, who are annihilated, who are discarded, who are
> > deprecated, who are forgotten, who are lost ::
> >
> > Here in Central Falls there an ICE detention center: "More than
> > 60 ICE detainees on 'hunger strike' call for release" ...
> >
> > Shortly before the silence:
> > "6.52 We feel that even when all _possible_ scientific questions
> > have been answered, the problems of life remain completely
> > untouched. Of course there are then no questions left, and this
> > itself in the answer."
> > and
> > "6.521 The solution of the problem of life is seen in the
> > vanishing of the problem." [...]
> >
> > This silence, also, in
> > "6.522 There are, indeed, things that cannot be put into words.
> > They _make themselves manifest._ They are what is mystical."
> >
> > The scaffolding of expulsion disappears, everything empties out.
> > I think of Amery, however, so many others, the lost, the
> > disappeared around the world, the annihilated, those whose
> > history is absolutely destroyed. They mystical relates to the
> > numinous, the sublime, what of the inconceivable depths of
> > genocide? What of that?
> >
> > "Put a fence around the Torah." "The quote you are looking for
> > is to be found in the Mishnah, at the opening of the Tractate
> > 'Aboth.'" Do we seep beneath the bridge, and who are we who even
> > now, all of us, are in danger of disappearing?
> >
> > Do we seep, do we sweep?
> >
> > "Dhamma
> > 17. Having wandered for alms, leaning on a stick, weak, with
> > trembling limbs I fell to the ground in that very spot, having
> > seen peril in the body. Then my mind was completely released."
> > Elders' Verses, Therigatha, trans. Norman
> >
> >
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