[NetBehaviour] analogy and AI poetry

Paul Hertz ignotus at gmail.com
Wed Jul 14 21:36:51 CEST 2021

There's an essay, "Intelligence Without Representation" that Brooks wrote
in 1987, http://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/representation.pdf, that
offered what was then a new point of view on how to consider AI.

// Paul

On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 2:10 PM Paul Hertz <ignotus at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Max,
> The robotics researcher Rodney Brooks back in the late 1980s argued the AI
> based on the construction of a "knowledge base" was bound to fail. He made
> the case that a robot adapting to an environment was far more likely to
> achieve intelligence of the sort that humans demonstrate precisely because
> it was embodied. Some of his ideas are presented in the movie Fast, Cheap,
> and Out of Control, directed ISTR by Errol Morris. If you haven't seen it
> yet, I can recommend it.
> -- Paul
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 1:38 PM Max Herman via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I know virtually nothing about AI, beyond what the letters stand for, but
>> noticed this new article in Quanta Magazine.  Does it pertain at all?
>> Interestingly it concludes that in order for AI to be human-like it will
>> need to understand analogy, the basis of abstraction, which may require it
>> to have a body!  🙂
>> https://www.quantamagazine.org/melanie-mitchell-trains-ai-to-think-with-analogies-20210714/?mc_cid=362710ae88&mc_eid=df8a5187d9
>> I have been interested in the book *GEB *by Hofstadter for some time,
>> and have been researching how it was referenced (specifically its Chapter
>> IV "Consistency, Completeness, and Geometry" and its Introduction) by Italo
>> Calvino in *Six Memos for the Next Millennium*, so Mitchell's connection
>> to Hofstadter and *GEB *is interesting on a general level.
>> Coincidentally I contacted her a year ago to ask about the Calvino
>> connection but she replied she hadn't read any Calvino or the *Six Memos*.
>> However, his titles for the six memos -- Lightness, Quickness, Exactitude,
>> Visibility, Multiplicity, and Consistency -- might be exactly the kinds of
>> "bodily" senses AI will need to have!
>> All best,
>> Max
>> https://www.etymonline.com/word/analogy
>> https://www.etymonline.com/word/analogue
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