[NetBehaviour] analogy and AI poetry

[Stephanie Strickland]

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On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:38 PM Paul Hertz via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> There's an essay, "Intelligence Without Representation" that Brooks wrote
> in 1987, http://people.csail.mit.edu/brooks/papers/representation.pdf,
> that offered what was then a new point of view on how to consider AI.
>
> // Paul
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 2:10 PM Paul Hertz <ignotus at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Max,
>>
>> The robotics researcher Rodney Brooks back in the late 1980s argued the
>> AI based on the construction of a "knowledge base" was bound to fail. He
>> made the case that a robot adapting to an environment was far more likely
>> to achieve intelligence of the sort that humans demonstrate precisely
>> because it was embodied. Some of his ideas are presented in the movie Fast,
>> Cheap, and Out of Control, directed ISTR by Errol Morris. If you haven't
>> seen it yet, I can recommend it.
>>
>> -- Paul
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 14, 2021, 1:38 PM Max Herman via NetBehaviour <
>> netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I know virtually nothing about AI, beyond what the letters stand for,
>>> but noticed this new article in Quanta Magazine.  Does it pertain at all?
>>> Interestingly it concludes that in order for AI to be human-like it will
>>> need to understand analogy, the basis of abstraction, which may require it
>>> to have a body!  🙂
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.quantamagazine.org/melanie-mitchell-trains-ai-to-think-with-analogies-20210714/?mc_cid=362710ae88&mc_eid=df8a5187d9
>>>
>>> I have been interested in the book *GEB *by Hofstadter for some time,
>>> and have been researching how it was referenced (specifically its Chapter
>>> IV "Consistency, Completeness, and Geometry" and its Introduction) by Italo
>>> Calvino in *Six Memos for the Next Millennium*, so Mitchell's
>>> connection to Hofstadter and *GEB *is interesting on a general level.
>>>
>>> Coincidentally I contacted her a year ago to ask about the Calvino
>>> connection but she replied she hadn't read any Calvino or the *Six
>>> Memos*.  However, his titles for the six memos -- Lightness, Quickness,
>>> Exactitude, Visibility, Multiplicity, and Consistency -- might be exactly
>>> the kinds of "bodily" senses AI will need to have!
>>>
>>> All best,
>>>
>>> Max
>>>
>>> https://www.etymonline.com/word/analogy
>>> https://www.etymonline.com/word/analogue
>>>
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