[NetBehaviour] A campfire in a ruin in a forest

Annie Abrahams bram.org at gmail.com
Thu Jun 10 12:03:28 CEST 2021


what to learn from it, how to understand it ....

All the best
Annie

On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 12:02 PM Annie Abrahams <bram.org at gmail.com> wrote:

> What a beautiful text Adam.  Thanks.
>
> The idea of living in the ruins of media art feels akward to me. Media
> art, or at least part of the people concerned with it, tried to go beyond
> the "art" system where money is the big thing, tried to make something
> outside of canons and hierarchical systems. Furtherfield is part of that.
> Media art had something revolutionary and I would like to keep that spirit,
> with or with out the media and the internet.
> Existing in the ruins of art as we knew it.
> I wish it could be true.
> How?
> de-school, re-learn, re-turn, dare again
>
> I would love to have intimate conversations in small groups on subjects
> that are important to me, but have no idea how to organise these in a way
> that wouldn't be "exclusive". Intimate, means being few, and taking the
> time to understand backgrounds, contexts etc. I also wouldn't like these
> conversation to be recorded and available to all afterwards. But there
> could be a kind of anarchive made by the participants consisting just of
> notes and maybe some images. (an anarchive - a potential for continuation)
>
> Two subjects that actually bother, intrigue me are:
> - Care and staying with trouble as attitude is excellent, was refreshing,
> but isn't it also contra-productive, because it is not directed to "change"
> ?
> - the NFT craze, wh
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 9, 2021 at 10:05 AM Gretta Louw via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>> I find the notion of existing in the ruins of media art and the idea of
>> the internet as a positive force absolutely compelling - electrifying
>> really!
>>
>>
>> Actually I think this is what all of my current work is doing. Thank you!
>>
>>
>> Gretta
>>
>>
>> On 9. Jun 2021, at 09:32, F3ydrus via NetBehaviour <
>> netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>>
>> Ironically, I broke my long lurking silence on this list earlier today in
>> response to Simon's 'cochineal' message, without yet having read the recent
>> and ongoing discussion about the list, which included the question of who
>> all these 600+ lurkers might be... Last night I had 2hrs to catch up on the
>> whole genealogy of the recent explosion of posts, and then it was too late
>> to write. I see further indication this morning of 'moving on' from the
>> explosion, and a return of activity about other things, which is great. I
>> hope another long response on this isn't too disruptive / painful.
>>
>> Like Johannes I found Ruth's "campfire in some unmanaged ancient
>> woodland" analogy extremely resonant, partly because I too have been
>> reconnecting with my local physical space + place over these past 15
>> months. In fact as we come out of lockdown in the UK I continue to get
>> further connected locally. I live in Cornwall in the far south west and
>> there aren't many great woodlands but some beautiful pockets, often inland
>> away from the beaches (which I tend to avoid due to their popularity). I
>> live in Penryn, an 800 year-old town where the most important work of
>> literature in Cornish was written, the Ordinalia - mystery plays, now
>> understood to have been played in the round in the so-called 'playing
>> places' of Cornwall, circular arenas with raised embankments, in the
>> pre-modern theatre era. The Ordinalia were written in a pre-Reformation lay
>> college called Glasney College, which was a grand structure built on low
>> damp ground near the old harbour (in what was once woodland). Since the
>> destruction of the monasteries and the raiding of all the stones of Glasney
>> by the townspeople, there is almost nothing left. Just the eponymous
>> Glasney Field, a big open space that's been kept clear of construction for
>> hundreds of years, and a fragment of an archway just outside the field in
>> somebody's back garden. In the remaining woods nearby there are other
>> larger but less significant ruins, from more recent times, overgrown and
>> unattended.
>>
>> NetBehaviour strikes me as more than a campfire in the forest. It is a
>> campfire *in a ruin* in the forest. The ruin of itself, of new media art,
>> of the ideas of the web, of the internet as a positive force, and so on.
>> Maybe don't knock it down, or clear all the weeds, or rebuild it. There is
>> something intensely fertile about congregating in ruins. The most beautiful
>> wedding I ever went to was in a ruined church open to the sky and floored
>> with grass. We need ruins, to confront us with mortality. To remember. To
>> connect with deep time. To think about what we want to build, perhaps
>> elsewhere.
>>
>> As for the mysterious lurkers in the dark woods around the campfire,
>> don't fear them. We are woodland creatures, attracted to the fire but
>> nervous of it. We won't hurt you. I imagine we're pretty much all like me,
>> nurtured and encouraged by the all-so-rare atmosphere of conviviality and
>> consideration here. These ruins are beautiful and a good place to take
>> inspiration, like Ruskin. By all means hold events in the ruin, concerts,
>> processions (NetBehaviour Jitsi meets). But don't fear the forest, its
>> labyrinthine paths and trackless undergrowth. Fear the clearing of woodland
>> for commerce and the fenced path. The saddest forest experience I ever had
>> was going to see the Old Oak in Sherwood Forest, Nottinghamshire. There was
>> a low-fenced path from the visitor centre to the fenced-off tree. It was
>> clear where to go.
>>
>>
>> Warmest regards to you all,
>>
>> Adam Russell
>> leelatrope.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
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