[NetBehaviour] Jerusalem Minefield 1962 and Music for Hell

Fri Oct 13 02:01:09 CEST 2023

Hi Johannes,

Here there was an attempted attack on a synagogue in Rhode Island, came to
nothing. The anti-semites will be out in force.
There's no comparison to 9/11 definitely, and the comparison does discredit
to analysis, to what actually happened, etc. in both places.
What Hamas did was absolutely horrific, I can't imagine that, literally. It
certainly changes the tenor of things.
There's so much to blame, all the way around, and I hate the hatreds that
also inflame these situations, make them worse.
I can't understand Netanyahu at all, the taunting, the bowing down before
Lord Trump - that's not the Judaism I know or ever want to know.
"ordinary" Israeli and "ordinary Palestinian citizens are caught up in all
of this...
For what it's worth also, my first wife and I honeymooned in Jerusalem - on
the Arab side - and it was amazing. There were these small moments of
grace...
Attaching a photograph of me there when I was at Hebrew U. in 1962.

Best, Alan, and thank you and everyone, and sorry for replying like crazy,
it's been weird...

On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 5:23 PM Johannes Birringer via NetBehaviour <
netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:

> Dear Alan
>
> thank you for your writing, your video with these fascinating 60 year old
> photos, and your expression of despair.
>
> "That is what the world was and will be".
>
>  I tend to follow you here, it is a most distressing moment again, we have
> wars now in the East
> and the West/Middle East, with many powers involved, from Iran to the US
> to Russia, I am sure, and the terrible mess will get worse, for all.
> The "Nation" article is no consolation (thanks, though, Paul!), how could
> it.  I am not sure I like comparisons to 9/11 and the war that followed, it
> simplifies the complex Israeli history and relations to Palestine and the
> surrounding neighbors who speak of annihilating Israel though recently also
> offered rapprochement. Did not some US senator or Congressman today advise
> 'flattening" Gaza? Bombing it out of existence?
> It is also complex to read the news commentaries in the country where I
> live part-time (German solidarity to Israel expressed on government level;
> Muslim and Palestinian sympathizers in Berlin dancing on the streets in
> jubilation!).
> FAZ newspaper interviewed Isareli author Lizzie Doron (Tel Aviv), and she
> said "nothing will ever be as it was before."  (?).
> Another author (Deborah Feldman, who wrote "Unorthodox", a novel about her
> escape from an ultra-Orthodox community in Brooklyn) was caught,
> unawares, at a literary symposium, and she offered at first, hearing about
> the Hamas attack, a warning - saying, "it cannot be taken in, it is too
> much, there are no words to be found."
> Then she suggested that this terrible crisis also has internal Israel
> background contexts – Netanyahu's policies, and attack on Israeli
> democracy to limit judicial independence, now combined with "security
> failures owed to moving military force to the West Bank to support
> ultra-orthodox settlers there, neglecting to protect secular Jews or the
> "less protection-worthy folks in the South near Gaza." This of course makes
> one wonder what was known by the Military Intelligence and the Shin Bet
> security service, and what was allowed to happen. I have no idea. I am
> distressed, like Alan, and have no musical answer, or any answer.
>
> Johannes Birringer
>
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 10:04 PM Alan Sondheim via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour at lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Jerusalem Minefield 1962 and Music for Hell
>>
>> https://youtu.be/kYclag76v7g video (1962, 2023)
>>
>> I don't know you and I don't know myself. Maybe 60 years ago it
>> was different. I thought I knew something which was Wittgenstein
>> and I knew nothing. I knew the world was not right and I was not
>> right in the world and I acted accordingly. I acted politically.
>> It meant nothing. The world was all that is the case and acted
>> accordingly. I witnessed. We all acted accordingly and some of
>> us were remain distorted. Not just because of that knot, but the
>> world, unable to act accordingly. The few images from Jerusalem
>> 1962, there are a lot more but these are over and done with. So
>> I do play accordingly and to this day cannot conceive horror. I
>> was young when I read the medical volumes of the Nuremberg War
>> Trials and never recovered. That is what the world was and will
>> be. My certainty is violent. I am damaged and damage others and
>> try not to damage anyone or anything and fail. You can't witness
>> this and not _be,_ an existential statement. I return to it as
>> false premises, false history, as if I were someone. I'm not and
>> none of us are, given the world's grit. In 1962-63 I studied at
>> Hebrew University. The camera was a Minox, very small. Some of
>> what I photographed could not have been otherwise. Don't think
>> for a moment things have changed. This is exact. This fits like
>> a glove. This is perfection. The music isn't. I efface myself to
>> no avail because I constantly appear, as you do and your friends
>> do as well. When we're gone, most of our images will be gone as
>> well. The shadows decay in some brilliant and overpowering light
>> in the future. Those who are there will be blinded by its
>> insufferability.
>>
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