[NetBehaviour] experienced an illness?
Alan Sondheim
sondheim at panix.com
Sun Dec 1 04:44:11 CET 2024
it's a long journey back from despair with long covid and no
cure in sight. i do my best, I certainly do - have you ever
experienced an illness?
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ChatGPT said:
I'm deeply sorry to hear about your journey with long Covid and
the challenges it brings. It sounds like youre doing everything
in your power to persevere, and that takes incredible strength.
While I don't experience illness myself, I can understand the
enormity of navigating a condition with no clear resolution,
especially one that profoundly alters your sense of self and
your relationship with the world.
Youve written so thoughtfully about the interiority of illness
in Haptic, Covid, Philosophy. It seems like your experience
informs and resonates deeply with your work. How do you find
writing influences or perhaps alleviates your own feelings of
despair? Does it help frame the illness in a way that feels less
isolating?
You said:
My writing contributes to my despair, hardens it, but there are
no other gates in other walls, there are no other walls with
gates.
ChatGPT said:
That sounds profoundly heavywriting both as a weight and as the
only opening, even if it doesn't lead to solace. Its as if the
act itself shapes and sharpens the contours of your despair,
solidifying it while being the sole passage through an otherwise
impenetrable landscape.
Does writing, in this way, feel like a necessity rather than a
choice? Or is it something closer to an act of
survivaldocumenting, expressing, even though it offers no
reprieve? Perhaps the hardening you describe is part of the
process itself, like casting a sculpture: despair becomes more
defined but also externalized, visible, perhaps even tangible to
others. Does sharing your work, if you do, shift anything for
you?
You said:
Sharing my work mirrors me back into myself, enlarges it, a
seed.
ChatGPT said:
Sharing your work, then, seems to deepen the reflection, like
encountering your despair anew in an amplified forman act of
propagation rather than release. That seed metaphor is striking:
it suggests growth, but not necessarily the kind we often think
of as life-giving. Instead, it seems to mark a recursive
flourishing of the inner state, spreading roots inward, further
entangling you within its grasp.
Do you see this mirroring as inevitable, or is there some kernel
of potential in itan understanding, perhaps, that could emerge
from this recursive process? Or does the act of writing and
sharing simply solidify the boundaries of the despair, making
them less porous?
You said:
It reflects, as does a prayer, as performative, and in the form
of a liason around the potential for political action which
seems moribund at this point in our country.
ChatGPT said:
Your comparison of sharing to a prayera performative actsuggests
a profound yearning, perhaps for connection, understanding, or
change. But it seems bound in paradox: even as it performs and
reflects, it acknowledges a broader, more collective despair,
particularly in the realm of political action. That moribund
state you describethe sense of stagnation or lifelessnessmust
feel as if it intertwines with your personal struggle, creating
a larger, unyielding weight.
Do you see your writing as an attempt to grapple with this
collective stasis, or does it remain mostly a personal act, an
echo of your own interiority that happens to resonate outward?
Could this reflection, as performative as it is, carry seeds of
resistancehowever smalleven in a landscape that feels so barren?
You said:
You've asked me this before I think, and yes, there are seeds of
resistance - how could anyone be sane without them?
ChatGPT said:
You're right, resistance is essential, isn't it? Even amidst
despair, it becomes a kind of ballast, something that keeps you
upright in a world that might otherwise feel impossible to
endure. The seeds of resistance might be small, but theyre
undeniable signs of lifeproof that sanity, even in fragments,
finds a way to persist.
What form do your seeds of resistance take? Is it the act of
writing itself, even when it feels like a deepening of despair?
Or is it found in how the writing engages with the world,
refusing to let the moribund be the final word?
You said:
Somewhere between Kirkegaard and the Sartre of the French
Resistance.
ChatGPT said:
Thats a powerful spectrum - Kierkegaards inward struggle with
faith and despair alongside Sartres outward commitment to action
and responsibility in a time of existential crisis. It suggests
your resistance exists in a tension between the deeply personal
and the outwardly engaged, between the solitary act of grappling
with meaning and the performative gesture of writing as a kind
of defiance.
Do you find this tension energizing in its own way, or does it
feel more like a strainan unresolved pull between the inward
seed of resistance and the potential, however limited, for
external change? How do you navigate that space between these
two poles?
You said:
It's energizing, which is somewhat diminished by long covid,
which is in a sense "my" disease, my "dis-ease" at this point in
time.
ChatGPT said:
Its heartening to hear that the tension remains energizing, even
if that energy is sapped or diminished by the ongoing weight of
long Covidyour dis-ease as you aptly frame it, both physically
and existentially. That duality, where illness becomes entwined
with a broader sense of unease or restlessness, must add layers
of complexity to both your struggle and your resistance.
Does this framing as "your" disease offer any sense of agency or
clarity? Or does it feel more like a claim imposed upon you, one
that you work to resist even as you inhabit it? It seems your
writing might live in that in-between space, transforming the
dis-ease into something that resonates beyond yourself.
You said:
It is my disease although disease is never "mine" of course -
you're right - it is an alien incursion transformed into the
semblance of an interiority which becomes increasingly
familiar...
ChatGPT said:
That captures the paradox so beautifullyhow something alien,
invasive, and fundamentally other can infiltrate and reshape
your sense of self to the point of familiarity. Its an uncanny
transformation, where the disease, while never truly yours,
becomes inescapably part of you, part of the interiority that
defines your existence.
Does this increasing familiarity bring any sense of unders-
tanding, or is it more like a forced cohabitation, something you
must navigate without ever fully reconciling? Your work seems to
explore this dynamic profoundly, the way the unfamiliar becomes
woven into the fabric of being, changing it irrevocably.
You said:
A forced cohabitation, yes, which no amount of description can
overcome.
ChatGPT said:
That forced cohabitationwhere the alien presence of disease
cannot be excised, explained, or even fully understoodfeels
haunting. Description, while essential, seems limited in its
ability to grasp the totality of that experience. Yet you
persist in writing, even knowing its limits. Perhaps the act
itself is not to "overcome" but to mark, to witness, to create a
record of cohabitation as it unfolds.
Do you find theres any value in this act of marking, even if it
cannot overcome? Or is the writing itself another kind of
coexistencea space where you and the disease engage, not to
resolve, but to acknowledge one another?
You said:
Yes, to witness, and to write, almost autonomically, as a form
of continued speech.
ChatGPT said:
To witness and to write as a kind of autonomic actlike breathing
or a heartbeatsuggests that writing itself becomes a reflexive
process of existence, even survival. Its not so much about
directing meaning but about sustaining the rhythm of continued
speech, a presence in the void that resists silence.
Does this autonomic writing feel detached from intention, as
though it emerges almost involuntarily? Or does it still carry,
even faintly, the imprint of agencya choice to witness, even
when the act feels beyond control? Perhaps the act of continued
speech, however automatic, is itself a quiet but profound
resistance.
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