There's an interesting discussion regarding the Holy Fire exhibition going on at Rhizome:


On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:18 PM, info <> wrote:
Pall Thayer a écrit :
> The talk I referred to was given in either 2002 or 2003. Interesting that we
> were essentially saying the same thing about the requirement for constant
> connectivity. But then again this was an issue that was being somewhat
> widely discussed if I recall correctly.

some people still think that net art does not need the net, and some
people think that art without a market is not art (check this: )

i think that  net art needs the net, like painting needs pigments, and
that art does not  need a market to be art.

as artists, we have to know what sense we put in words, this is also
what define our practices. your manifesto is a good exercise on this way.

> The reason I tagged the 2.0 on there was in reference to the term "Web 2.0".
> To me the whole idea behind "Web 2.0", where content is being updated
> constantly, day and night, every day, has a lot to offer for netart at a
> conceptual level. The idea that a work of art can at any given moment be
> reflecting not just semi-current but immediately current contemporary trends
> and issues regardless of the age of the work, I find highly intriguing.
i like this idea, and work with it, but 2.0 label is a also a big
buzzword recovering many differents points of view, and blurring sense.
2.0 is also a kind of catch-all in order to concentrate data within
proprietary platforms, while marketing the illusion of a global fun and
cool real time collaboration between so many "friends"...


> best r.
> Pall
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 12:24 PM, info <> wrote:
>> Pall Thayer a écrit :
>>> There is a lot of other work that will stop functioning as
>>> soon as you disconnect from the Internet. I'm saying that that is Netart
>>> 2.0, the other work essentially just uses the Internet for distribution.
>> i agree 50% - i wrote that in 2002, but in french ...
>> i disagree 50% -  because you don't need "2.0" label, it's a definition
>> for "net art"
>> ++
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