Nice one Mark- I agree on mot of your points- especially about how nice middle class media folk maintain the status quo and just play the game of keeping people informed. 
The working class has become a sort of embarrassment to the other classes- and as such is patronised to the nth degree.
And so its no wonder this anger is boiling over.What amazes me is that people see criminality as a thing separate from society- rather than as something with causes and an affect to be clearly read within the greater scheme.


> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 10:05:45 +0100
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> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Looting Woodgreen 2.
> Hi Martha, Alan & all,
> Thank you for your concern, we are both fine although worried regarding
> the media's 'shallow' representation of it all.
> Our flat is on Green Lanes one of the main busy streets. A mile and half
> away from the video I showed on here yesterday. Green Lanes turns into
> Wood green, a 5-10 minute walk away depending how short your legs are...
> Wendy, one of the members of this list, I think may have been directly
> in the middle of it all, and has dedicated an awfully lot of her time in
> Tottenham working on local projects, who I hope is ok - Wendy?
> The main part of (original) riots took place in Tottenham, which is
> about a mile away from the Furtherfield studios. But as in all big
> cities, everything sprawls over. People are living on top of each other,
> not much space. To be honest, I am surprised it has not happened sooner.
> Everyone locally is affected by it all in various ways. Not just this,
> the unrest is now erupting in several other parts of the capital's
> boroughs, from Brixton in the south (other side of the River Thames) to
> Enfield, Islington and Walthamstow further to the east. So, if you are
> some one who is living or working in a poor area in London, I would say
> the threat of violence is likely. Of course, the richer areas will be
> fine - which is where most of those working in the media live themselves...
> I am not an advocate for riots, where local people are hurt by local
> people - it depresses me to see them destroying their neighbourhoods.
> But, it does declare the reality of how desperate things actually are here.
> Ruth & I recently, just moved out of London a week or so ago, but are
> still living & working at Furtherfield & the staying at the Flat still,
> for instance we will be in London today & tomorrow - regularly working &
> living in London (weekly) but also living outside as well. We have had
> to move due to cuts in the arts.
> Which brings me to some other things. In response to the riots I posted
> a comment on the Newstatesman web site ( who
> are privileged lefties from Cambridge & Oxford by the way. Excuse me if
> I sound slightly bitter in this bit... "What I find interesting is no
> one above is considering the bigger picture. I live locally in Tottenham
> & have been hearing many younger people's views regarding their despair,
> of youth centres being closed down because of the recent cuts, & no jobs
> in the near future either. Our culture is suffering a deep attack
> against education & community values. I am really not surprised by any
> of this - but the blame lies from up top, with choosing neoliberalism
> above human needs. Whilst all of you 'comfortable' people chat away
> ignoring such realities, our 'little' Rome will burn, please wake up!"
> What I have found generally depressing in our culture, in the arts and
> right across the board - is that the working classes (whatever creed,
> colour, gender) are treated as a constant annoyance. The overall
> language of traditional broadcast media is conservative, whether it be
> radio 4 looking at things with a kind of 'rationalist' perspective,
> within their cosy and well educated situations, slightly liberal,
> although completely unaware of reality - usually asking even politicians
> nonsensical questions which on the whole is just noise. Yet, they get
> away with it, because they are educated and have a (voice) of so called
> authority - of presence, of standing.
> The Newspapers generally condemn the violence not allowing everyday
> people quality time to have a voice, time to work all of this out. You
> just hear trained 'officials' because everyday people do not know how to
> use these frameworks - these platforms of news (infotainment) media are
> not for them, it is 'only about' them.
> So, as working a class individual, who has not been through the same
> systems of education as most of my peers, until later in life. I kind of
> feel a (small) connection with these rioters (not the looters), I
> suspect if I was in their position and their age I would also be out
> there rioting - although I am so glad that I am not.
> And yes - of course it must be said; I do not agree with how they have
> gone about it. I would prefer that they were more organised and visited
> central London and challenged the source of the problem, the heads of
> state; who are creating even more poverty whilst they remain untouched
> by the circumstances and difficulties that they have and are
> contributing to. For it is important to remember, they have played a
> major part in placing the main burden of the financial crisis on the
> people, not the banks and corporations.
> Anyway,
> chat later...
> marc
> > This looks pretty bad on tv, Marc. Are you and Ruth safe? And your
> > office? I have my fingers crossed.
> >
> > best wishes for better days ahead,
> > Martha
> >
> > November 2010 Project
> >
> >
> > City Bird: Selected Poems (1991 - 2009)
> > by Millie Niss, edited by Martha Deed
> >
> >
> >
> > On 8/7/2011 11:03 AM, marc garrett wrote:
> >> Looting Woodgreen 2.
> >>
> >> Whilst the riots were happening on another street in Tottenham, on our
> >> street youths were smashing into shops and ransacking them...
> >>
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