<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Dear Ruth<br><br>I am very happy with your reaction<br>I volunteer<br><br></div>and i'll think more about the rest of your mail and reply to that later<br><br></div>Annie<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 11:21 AM, ruth catlow <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ruth.catlow@furtherfield.org" target="_blank">ruth.catlow@furtherfield.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>Dear Annie,<br>
      <br>
      You have thrown the cat amongst the pigeons of my mind!<br>
      <br>
      Of course!<br>
      <br>
      All the time I think - what makes Furtherfield/Netbehaviour
      super-special is this link between what happens in the experiments
      and conversations between us all here on the list, and in the
      physical places in the Furtherfield park venues (and on tour). <br>
      <br>
      The work done by our avant-art-tech networks and communities
      prompts wonderful (I find them wonderful) encounters, activities
      and conversations with park users, local residents (from every
      country- perhaps- in the world) and exhibition visitors (local and
      international).<br>
      <br>
      But I too have had a feeling of un-ease about a disconnect with
      the conversations that happen here on the list. This list is one
      of my favourite places, and yet I find it hard to advocate for it,
      to people who are not already here. Perhaps because email has now
      acquired toxic associations for many people because of the demands
      it places on 'immaterial labourers'.<br>
      <br>
      I have a couple of thoughts about what we might do.<br>
      <br>
      Firstly- a Netbehaviour subscriber could volunteer to host, here
      on the list, any of the following people<br>
      <ul>
        <li>artists in our upcoming show, </li>
        <li>a recent student placement student,</li>
        <li>any member of our regular (overworked) staff-team.  </li>
      </ul>
      I would invite them to join us as our guest, to talk about their
      work, contribution and experience with Furtherfield. As a host you
      would be responsible for making them feel welcome here and helping
      them (by mailing with them in private) to negotiate conversations
      if they were to get spikey: ) <br>
      <br>
      Secondly<br>
      <br>
      If there is an appetite amongst netbehaviourists for more sharing
      of Furtherfield process, it would be easy (and pleasurable, and
      useful, and actually quite a relief) to open up and share some of
      the things happening 'on the ground'. As long as people could
      tolerate incompleteness (we have to take care not invade the
      privacy of collaborators and partners), contradiction (I have an
      unruly mind), and the occasional indefensible statement (we work
      it out as we go) along the way.<br>
      <br>
      To give you a taste of what kinds of topics these might touch on
      let me start with a brain dump of the possible [Netbehaviour]
      Subject Headers about Furtherfield process.<br>
      <br>
      <ul>
        <li>DAOWO preparation excitement!</li>
        <ul>
          <li>see here <a href="http://www.furtherfield.org/artdatamoney/debate/" target="_blank">http://www.furtherfield.org/artdatamoney/debate/</a><br>
            <br>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <li>Reflections on attempting to maintain critical and
          politically astute art processes - without being po-faced and
          elitist.<br>
          <br>
        </li>
        <li>Installing work by [insert the names here of every artist in
          Furtherfield's upcoming exhibition The Human Face of
          Cryptoeconomies <a href="http://bit.ly/1VrLivJ" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/1VrLivJ</a> ] at Furtherfield
          Gallery.<br>
          <br>
        </li>
        <li>Calculations, tactics and strategies for dealing with
          Furtherfield finances</li>
        <ul>
          <li>Talking to businesspeople (lots of odd feelings!) and how
            Jeremy Corbyn is helping<br>
            <br>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <li>Summer at the Museum of Contemporary Commodities - open
          participatory process - an extreme sport.</li>
        <ul>
          <li>pictures here
            <a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/http_gallery/sets/72157656437894006" target="_blank">https://www.flickr.com/photos/http_gallery/sets/72157656437894006</a><br>
            <br>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <li>Why Furtherfield Commons has had no landline for 3 months</li>
        <ul>
          <li>
            (How BT handed over our line to another service provider
            without our agreement and then wouldn't get it back)<br>
            <br>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <li>Preparations for an upcoming street programme 'The People's
          Magna Carta' at Frequency Festival in Lincoln.<br>
        </li>
      </ul>
      <ul>
        <li>The Furtherfield website - opening up to noobs and improving
          diversity of participants<br>
        </li>
        <ul>
          <li>7 placement students make themselves heard (it's all a bit
            tricky!)<br>
            <br>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <li>Seeds of a plan for an experimental innovation lab for
          values based economies</li>
        <ul>
          <li>The Oslo Innovation Manual (apparently the role of arts,
            design and culture go unaccounted for)<br>
            <br>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <li>How blockchain is redolent with the decentralised
          distributed promise of the early web <br>
        </li>
        <ul>
          <li>How we're not falling for the utopian promise of
            blockchain - but skippy with excitement nevertheless!<br>
            <br>
          </li>
        </ul>
        <li>What 7 placement students said about their Summers with
          Furtherfield<br>
          <br>
        </li>
        <li>How we are thinking about expanding outward and upward (and
          inward) at the gallery/lab in the park and <br>
        </li>
      </ul>
      Finally...<br>
      <br>
      Thanks to Geert (see subject header) for carrying out this in
      depth experiment with the Netbehaviour subscribers; )<br>
      and to Annie for investigating the cause of that sourness; )<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      What do you reckon???<br>
      Tell us, we'll do something!!!<br>
      <br>
      respect due!<br>
      Ruth<div><div class="h5"><br>
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      On 30/09/15 22:11, Annie Abrahams wrote:<br>
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              <div>hi Randall,<br>
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              I am not necesarrily asking for more, better media, for
              more livelyness, I am not sure I want more ...<br>
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            I would like a content re-de-placement, more of the
            processes going on (artistic and organisational) and les
            about results and "look what I have done" I would like that
            there would be more slowness, more attention, more time for
            open reflexion on what has been done, less representation
            and for now i see that still more in the mailinglist than on
            the social media. I think we should reinvent reinvest
            mailinglists! Netbehaviour first of all.<br>
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          see you<br>
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        Annie<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:44 PM,
          Randall Packer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rpacker@zakros.com" target="_blank">rpacker@zakros.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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                  <div>I’m not sure where to set into this thread, which
                    has become multi-threaded in all sorts of
                    interesting directions. </div>
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                  <div>Regarding Geert: without going into a complete
                    analysis, it’s not clear to me that he is aware of
                    the many museums in the US and the around the world
                    that are employing social media and what is called
                    “user-generated content” in all sorts of compelling
                    ways that invite engagement and social change. I
                    have taught courses in the Johns Hopkins University
                    Museum Studies program where the students are deeply
                    involved with museum-based social and “visitor
                    engagement,” to use another museum term. I believe
                    the interview does have a few absolutes that have
                    not been thoroughly researched, although I have the
                    utmost respect for Geert and his critique of
                    corporate-based social media: it’s just not fair to
                    museums that are making striking progress, and of
                    course the many alternative arts organizations,
                    maker-faires, and hack-a-thons around the world that
                    are incorporating socially-based forms of art and
                    science. </div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Regarding Annie’s concern for place: I agree, we
                    need the means of interaction that while remote,
                    give us a more real-time, visual, media-rich form of
                    interaction and engagement. I enjoy the ease and
                    simplicity of an email list, but there are times you
                    want to see faces, hear voices, trade gestures,
                    communicate with sound, all of which is near
                    impossible in this medium as a live experience.
                    There is no replacing the live: we need to embed the
                    real-time into our networked interactions, which for
                    many of us here has been at the heart of our
                    artistic work and research. We are all nodes on a
                    network, and we need to find ways to engage forms of
                    live connectivity that are as easy as sending an
                    email. </div>
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              <div>Randall</div>
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                <div style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:12pt;text-align:left;color:black;BORDER-BOTTOM:medium none;BORDER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-LEFT:0in;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;PADDING-TOP:3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> <<a href="mailto:netbehaviour-bounces@netbehaviour.org" target="_blank">netbehaviour-bounces@netbehaviour.org</a>>
                  on behalf of Annie Abrahams<br>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold">Reply-To: </span>
                  NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity<br>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>
                  Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 10:55 AM<br>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>
                  NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity<br>
                  <span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re:
                  [NetBehaviour] An interview with Geert Lovink<br>
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                            <div>I have been to a shop to buy some
                              coffee beans and while riding my bike, I
                              thought : wasn't I a bit nasty to
                              furtherfield/netbehaviour? When back I
                              found some reactions that reassured me,
                              but<br>
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                            I had been thinking that somehow I was a bit
                            sour on furtherfield/netbehaviour and I
                            asked myself why, what would you like to be
                            different, to change?<br>
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                          A small idea popped up : I miss the connexion
                          between furtherfield live in the park (where I
                          imagine a lot of the work is happening) and
                          furtherfield online - especially netbehaviour.
                          Of course there are the announcements, info on
                          the works showed of people I know online, but
                          I miss thoughts by these actual artists who
                          showed, worked with the real place on what is
                          going on, on how the relation is constructed,
                          of what their work does when place in a
                          gallery place. I miss personal stories on this
                          on netbehaviour.<br>
                          <br>
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                        xxx<br>
                      </div>
                      Annie<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">
                    <div>
                      <div>On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 4:39 PM,
                        Pall Thayer <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pallthay@gmail.com" target="_blank">pallthay@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Fascinating read. On gallery
                            and museum embrace of post-internet art, I
                            think there are two things going on. First
                            of all, it's new and it's acceptance in
                            galleries and museums is probably not much
                            greater than internet art's acceptance was
                            when it was new. Second of all, most of it
                            takes forms which galleries and museums are
                            familiar with, i.e. physical objects,
                            prints, videos, etc. This is a far more
                            attractive fit for commercial art galleries
                            and doesn't pose any significant archiving
                            issues for museums. At least, not ones that
                            they haven't encountered before.
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                            <div>Pall</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at
                                  10:26 AM marc garrett <<a href="mailto:marc.garrett2@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.garrett2@gmail.com</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Hi Paul, Dave, Annie
                                    & all,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Regarding Geert's interview -- I
                                    actually agree with most of what he
                                    says. In fact, I tend to agree with
                                    most of his ideas and writings. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    I think as a group, we're in tune
                                    (usually coincidentally with his
                                    reflections) but, living through
                                    them within a grounded context,
                                    which is of our everyday life
                                    experience and as part of surviving
                                    as an artist led group in a
                                    neoliberalist dominated culture.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    The audience he's talking to is an
                                    e-flux audience, and I think e-flux
                                    are part of an neoliberalist, elite
                                    establishment, so it's positive he
                                    is discussing these issues to its
                                    audience. <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Although, Paul has mentioned already
                                    things have been getting better and
                                    there is evidence of things gettign
                                    better. I would say that's true in
                                    some ways, but it may also be true
                                    that some of us have got older and
                                    into power and so able to support
                                    media art and net art more these
                                    days. And before this was not the
                                    case ;-)<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Wishing you well.</div>
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                                    <br>
                                    marc<br>
                                    <br>
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                                  <div>
                                    <div>On 30 September 2015
                                      at 14:07, Paul Hertz <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ignotus@gmail.com" target="_blank">ignotus@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">Well, happy to
                                          post polemics, it's a kind of
                                          a hobby. :^}.
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                                          <div>I think there has been a
                                            tendency for mainstream
                                            curators to approach more
                                            recent digitally-mediated
                                            works as if they were in
                                            effect a sort of hybrid old
                                            media, while still
                                            neglecting both historical
                                            and current "pure" digital
                                            media. This has meant that
                                            certain kinds of digital
                                            hard copy (modded
                                            photographic prints, collage
                                            and drawings, and even 3D
                                            printing == "post-digital")
                                            can be welcomed while the
                                            internet as a platform is
                                            generally ignored. I don't
                                            have any more evidence for
                                            this than observation, and I
                                            have felt that the situation
                                            for digital art was
                                            improving over the last ten
                                            years. OTOH, I can readily
                                            understand the impatience.</div>
                                          <div><br>
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                                          <div>-- Paul</div>
                                          <div><br>
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                                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                      <div class="gmail_quote">
                                        <div>
                                          <div>On Wed, Sep
                                            30, 2015 at 7:56 AM, dave
                                            miller <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dave.miller.uk@gmail.com" target="_blank">dave.miller.uk@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                            wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div dir="ltr">I think
                                                Geert is probably
                                                correct though - seems
                                                to me the art
                                                "establishment" aren't
                                                interested in internet/
                                                digital art, though
                                                maybe they have a
                                                different view of it
                                                from us on here.  The
                                                art world remains a
                                                mystery to me, so I may
                                                well be wrong. Thank god
                                                for Furtherfield, and I
                                                would love to know who
                                                are the <span style="font-size:13px">curators
                                                  'not' scared</span> of
                                                it.
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>What's the <span style="font-size:13px">‘post-digital’
                                                    bandwagon?</span></div>
                                                <span><font color="#888888">
                                                    <div><span style="font-size:13px"><br>
                                                      </span></div>
                                                    <div>Dave</div>
                                                  </font></span></div>
                                            </div>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <div>
                                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                                <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>On
                                                      30 September 2015
                                                      at 13:48, Annie
                                                      Abrahams <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bram.org@gmail.com" target="_blank">bram.org@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                      wrote:<br>
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                                                      <div>
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>don't be
                                                          small, don't
                                                          think
                                                          sectarism<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          Geert is
                                                          closer to "us"
                                                          than most
                                                          "others"<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          get in contact
                                                          with him,
                                                          explain and
                                                          connect, use
                                                          his critical
                                                          energy<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          invite him to
                                                          curate, to
                                                          build, to
                                                          discuss<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          xxx<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Annie<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                        </div>
                                                      </div>
                                                      <div class="gmail_extra">
                                                        <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>On
                                                          Wed, Sep 30,
                                                          2015 at 2:40
                                                          PM, NIKOS V <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nikos.vv@gmail.com" target="_blank">nikos.vv@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                          wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr">I
                                                          see the
                                                          relevance in
                                                          this approach,
                                                          allthough  I
                                                          have to say
                                                          its allready
                                                          to late for
                                                          that criticism
                                                          no?
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>Moreover,
                                                          is he really
                                                          interested in
                                                          art? </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>If yes,
                                                          as Marc says,
                                                          where are the
                                                          references and
                                                          the names ?</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>And why
                                                          is Venice
                                                          Biennial
                                                          important?To
                                                          whom????<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div class="gmail_extra">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          <div class="gmail_quote">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>2015-09-30
                                                          15:36
                                                          GMT+03:00
                                                          marc.garrett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.garrett@furtherfield.org" target="_blank">marc.garrett@furtherfield.org</a>></span>:<br>
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                                                          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div> Hi
                                                          Paul,<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          Geert needs to
                                                          be more
                                                          specific and
                                                          highlight the
                                                          curators who
                                                          are 'not'
                                                          scared and who
                                                          have been
                                                          showing
                                                          technical
                                                          artwork such
                                                          as
                                                          Furtherifeld
                                                          & others -
                                                          his words are
                                                          not grounded
                                                          and are too
                                                          absolute, they
                                                          do not reflect
                                                          reality...<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                          marc<br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div dir="ltr"><a href="http://conversations.e-flux.com/t/geert-lovink-on-social-media-and-the-arts/2581" target="_blank">http://conversations.e-flux.com/t/geert-lovink-on-social-media-and-the-arts/2581</a>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>
                                                          <div>"The
                                                          absence at the
                                                          2015 Venice
                                                          Bienale of
                                                          digital arts
                                                          and internet
                                                          works says it
                                                          all. Curators
                                                          are afraid to
                                                          admit they are
                                                          clueless and
                                                          continue their
                                                          ignorant
                                                          attitude
                                                          towards art
                                                          that deals
                                                          with the
                                                          digital in a
                                                          direct matter
                                                          (while
                                                          checking their
                                                          smart phone).
                                                          Everyone jumps
                                                          on the
                                                          ‘post-digital’
                                                          bandwagon
                                                          because that’s
                                                          cute and safe.
                                                          [...] Curators
                                                          and critics
                                                          are more than
                                                          happy to
                                                          embrace the
                                                          race, gender,
                                                          even the
                                                          anthroposcene
                                                          (whatever that
                                                          is), but are
                                                          blind for the
                                                          techno-politics
                                                          of the
                                                          equipment and
                                                          media they are
                                                          using
                                                          themselves so
                                                          intensely. The
                                                          contradictions
                                                          are becoming
                                                          absurd. Video
                                                          was the last
                                                          technology
                                                          they had to
                                                          deal with, but
                                                          then it
                                                          stopped."</div>
                                                          <div>— Geert
                                                          Lovink</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>//</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>enjoy, </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>-- Paul</div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          -- <br>
                                                          <div>-----  
                                                          |(*,+,#,=)(#,=,*,+)(=,#,+,*)(+,*,=,#)|  
                                                          ---<br>
                                                          <a href="http://paulhertz.net/" target="_blank">http://paulhertz.net/</a></div>
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                                                          <br>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
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                                                          <p><b>26 09
                                                          14h</b>  <i>vivre
                                                          entre – from
                                                          estranger to
                                                          e-stranger</i>,
                                                          une <b>conférence
                                                          performée<br>
                                                          festival
                                                          Magdalena, </b>
                                                          <a href="http://www.labullebleue.fr/#%21/magdalenaproject" target="_blank">La
                                                          Bulle Bleue</a>,
                                                          285 rue du Mas
                                                          de Prunet,
                                                          Montpellier<br>
                                                          <a href="https://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/vivre-entre-from-estranger-to-e-stranger/" target="_blank">aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/vivre-entre-from-estranger-to-e-stranger/</a><i><b><br>
                                                          </b></i></p>
                                                          <p><i><b>besides,
                                                          </b><br>
                                                          </i>online
                                                          performances <b>On
                                                          Object Agency
                                                          </b><br>
                                                          with Martina
                                                          Ruhsam<br>
                                                          <b>archives</b>
                                                          (text, script,
                                                          video, images)<b><i><br>
                                                          </i></b><a href="http://bram.org/besides/" target="_blank">bram.org/besides/</a></p>
                                                          <b>Marc
                                                          Garrett</b>
                                                          interviewed me
                                                          for the <b>Choose
                                                          Your Muse</b>
                                                          series on <b>Furtherfield</b><br>
                                                          <a href="http://www.furtherfield.org/features/interviews/choose-your-muse-interview-annie-abrahams" target="_blank">furtherfield.org/features/interviews/choose-your-muse-interview-annie-abrahams</a>
                                                          <br>
                                                          <p><b><i><br>
                                                          </i></b></p>
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                                              -- <br>
                                              <div>-----  
                                                |(*,+,#,=)(#,=,*,+)(=,#,+,*)(+,*,=,#)|  
                                                ---<br>
                                                <a href="http://paulhertz.net/" target="_blank">http://paulhertz.net/</a></div>
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                        <div>
                          <div dir="ltr">P Thayer, Artist<br>
                            <a href="http://pallthayer.dyndns.org" target="_blank">http://pallthayer.dyndns.org</a></div>
                          <br>
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                                                          <p><b>26 09
                                                          14h</b>  <em>vivre
                                                          entre – from
                                                          estranger to
                                                          e-stranger</em>,
                                                          une <strong>conférence
                                                          performée<br>
                                                          festival
                                                          Magdalena, </strong>
                                                          <a href="http://www.labullebleue.fr/#%21/magdalenaproject" target="_blank">La
                                                          Bulle Bleue</a>,
                                                          285 rue du Mas
                                                          de Prunet,
                                                          Montpellier<br>
                                                          <a href="https://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/vivre-entre-from-estranger-to-e-stranger/" target="_blank">aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/vivre-entre-from-estranger-to-e-stranger/</a><i><b><br>
                                                          </b></i></p>
                                                          <p><i><b>besides,
                                                          </b><br>
                                                          </i>online
                                                          performances <b>On
                                                          Object Agency
                                                          </b><br>
                                                          with Martina
                                                          Ruhsam<br>
                                                          <b>archives</b>
                                                          (text, script,
                                                          video, images)<b><i><br>
                                                          </i></b><a href="http://bram.org/besides/" target="_blank">bram.org/besides/</a></p>
                                                          <b>Marc
                                                          Garrett</b>
                                                          interviewed me
                                                          for the <b>Choose
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                                                    <p><b>26 09 14h</b> 
                                                      <em>vivre entre –
                                                        from estranger
                                                        to e-stranger</em>,
                                                      une <strong>conférence
                                                        performée<br>
                                                        festival
                                                        Magdalena, </strong>
                                                      <a href="http://www.labullebleue.fr/#%21/magdalenaproject" target="_blank">La
                                                        Bulle Bleue</a>,
                                                      285 rue du Mas de
                                                      Prunet,
                                                      Montpellier<br>
                                                      <a href="https://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/vivre-entre-from-estranger-to-e-stranger/" target="_blank">aabrahams.wordpress.com/2015/09/17/vivre-entre-from-estranger-to-e-stranger/</a><i><b><br>
                                                        </b></i></p>
                                                    <p><i><b>besides, </b><br>
                                                      </i>online
                                                      performances <b>On
                                                        Object Agency </b><br>
                                                      with Martina
                                                      Ruhsam<br>
                                                      <b>archives</b>
                                                      (text, script,
                                                      video, images)<b><i><br>
                                                        </i></b><a href="http://bram.org/besides/" target="_blank">bram.org/besides/</a></p>
                                                    <b>Marc Garrett</b>
                                                    interviewed me for
                                                    the <b>Choose Your
                                                      Muse</b> series on
                                                    <b>Furtherfield</b><br>
                                                    <a href="http://www.furtherfield.org/features/interviews/choose-your-muse-interview-annie-abrahams" target="_blank">furtherfield.org/features/interviews/choose-your-muse-interview-annie-abrahams</a>
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