This too on what time is if anything:

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I like the Joseph Moore work on this:

Should we discuss on the VLW list?

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They run backward but they run into entropy, issues around the big bang etc.
And if art really offered resistance, wouldn't we be living in a far more benign world?
Art offers what just about anything else offers, and even 'art' as a totality is problematic?
For me, it's not the present moment, but the moment just before, or whatever's left in the moment just afterward.

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 4:44 PM Bjørn Magnhildøen via NetBehaviour <> wrote:
Thanks for your response Max!
I think the quote has a good point about the status of time in physics, afaik. The standard laws of physics run backwards as well as forward in time, which is obviously wrong phenomenologically. Time somehow doesn't exist in physics. Rudolf Carnap recounts a conversation he had with Einstein on this subject: "Einstein said that the problem of the now worried him seriously. He explained that the experience of the now means something special for man, something essentially different from the past and the future, but that this important difference does not and cannot occur within physics. That this experience cannot be grasped by science seemed to him a matter of painful but inevitable resignation."
It's an interesting point, we're experientally annihilated by the physical laws we have discovered by experience.
Art offers resistance, body inertia, witness. I don't think we've seen the end of this! (I mean knowledge of the world)


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 8:39 PM Max Herman <> wrote:

Thanks for sending this Bjorn!  Looking forward to seeing how the event evolves.

I've been reflecting on the below quote from Lee Smolin about physics and quantum theory lately. I wonder if it might relate to art and other fields as well?

"The relational revolution is already far along.  At the same time, it is clearly in crisis.  On some fronts, it's stuck.  Wherever it is in crisis, we find three kinds of questions under hot debate.  What is an individual?  How do novel kinds of systems and entities emerge?  How are we to usefully understand the universe as a whole?
The key to these puzzles is that neither individuals, systems, nor the universe as a whole can be thought of as things that simply are.  They are all compounded by processes that take place in time.  The missing element, without which we cannot answer these questions, is to see them as processes developing in time.  I will argue that to succeed, the relational revolution must embrace the notion of time and the present moment as a fundamental aspect of reality."

Time Reborn, p. xxix

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VERY LARGE WORKS is an online show organised by, containing a pavilion of new digital art biennale (Nov 2019 - Mar 2020) curated by Bjørn Magnhildøen and Zsolt Mesterhazy, and The Burrow, a secondary space curated by Aad Björkro (see below).

The exhibition contains platforms for open and collaborative works, in addition to individual works.

This mail's highlights:
--- The Cyborg Matrix is a virtual 3D environement where works can be added to the space. Some works from Very Large Works are already displaying in the space. Do you want to add you art to the space, head to or send an email to See you in cyberspace!
--- The White Page Gallery is a decentralized network of people dedicating a page on their own website to someone else's work and exhibition. In that sense it's a peer review curatorial network. Read more and join in at
--- 100000000 transparent pixels - Dominik Podsiadly - thanks to this artwork you become a cyber rich man because you have one hundred million transparent pixels.
--- Do something until something stops you doing - Novi Otten Erytryalsilani - [Planting a single grain in the pavement]. *******************************************

76 artists participate, including The Burrow (and with 43 more taking part in the discussions):

THE ALPHABET (Platform), Bruce Barber, Domenico Barra, Peter Basma-Lord, Lavoslava Bencic, Lawrence Bird, Johannes Birringer, Aad Björkro, Brad Brace, The Burrow (Platform), Samuel Brzeski, Chris Byrne, Christian Bøen (Termodress), Joana Chicau, Ludovic Coutinho, Cyborg Art Collective, Cyborg Matrix (Platform), Antonela Debiasi, Y.Divya Sri, #DUMPHAUS (Platform), Dave Evans, Luca Forcucci, Benna Gaean Maris, Edoardo Gaudieri, Ben Grosser, Gottfried Haider, Max Herman, James A. Hutchinson, Hypercollective Autobiography (Platform),, Karl Heinz Jeron, Cyrus LK, Nicole Kouts, Erica Lapadat-Janzen, Joseph Moore, Rubén Möller, Novi Otten Erytryalsilani, Karina Palosi, Dominik Podsiadly, Julian Priest, Stefanie Reling, Anthony Robinson, João Rocha, Letta Shtohryn, Chan SomethingStar, Alan Sondheim, The Sunderland Pavilion (Time tunnel), Daniel Temkin, Pall Thayer, Elle Thorkveld, Jurgen Trautwein, A.P. Vague, Catalina Vallejos, Angelika Vardalou, Stephanie Vella, The VteX Files (Platform), Roland Wegerer, Neale Willis, White Page Gallery (Platform).

From The Burrow: Isabelle Arvers, Basel Embassy (Tunnel), Aad Björkro, Yu Cai, DISNOVATION.ORG, Ursula Endlicher, Antje Feger & Benjamin F. Stumpf, Sophie Fields, Benna Gaean Maris, Fabian Heller, Garrett Lynch irl, Amelia Marzec and Abe Morrison, MEGALITH (Tunnel), Luis Mercado, Zsolt Mesterhazy, Joseph Moore, NETARTFORSTORAGE (Tunnel), Stefanie Reling, ronnie s, Ausín Sáinz, Pall Thayer, Jurgen Trautwein, Angelika Vardalou, Almond Yeggs.

Dearly thanks to all involved for the time and effort creating and discussing Very Large Works! 

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