Where are these pictures people are mentioning? Thank you!

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   1. Conversations with Ghosts * (Alan Sondheim)
   2. Re: 60 years ago today - music transmission across 4
      generations of Catlows (Graziano Milano)


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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 22:16:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Alan Sondheim <sondheim@panix.com>
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
        <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
Subject: [NetBehaviour] Conversations with Ghosts *
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Conversations with Ghosts *

Edward Schneider, alto sax
Alan Sondheim, viola Braguesa, Musima guitar

http://www.alansondheim.org/altamusima1.jpg
http://www.alansondheim.org/newmusima.mp3
http://www.alansondheim.org/newbraga.mp3
http://www.alansondheim.org/altabraga1.jpg

* When was the Sound from Where?

We used Zoom for discussion and listening and at my end a Zoom
recorder; Edward used a mic feeding directly into his computer.
Delay all over the place and we worked with it. We've played
together a lot in the past; he's on some of our recordings. Zoom
and Zoom are not related. I love his music and the way we relate.
I used tricks to get the sound present. So we heard delays live
of course, counted down out of sync at the start, he sent me .aif
files, I converted to .wav to match mine, did an initial edit in
Audacity and a final edit in Audition. We're happy with this. We
also recorded playing with pithkiavlin, shakuhachi, dutar, and
rababa; these were trickier. Hope you enjoy the music as much as
we enjoyed making it. More most likely coming soon.

--

culling our interactions - amazingly Finally, album, Schneider,
bird. music! footprint shale, Schneider records. Photographed
spot Peggy's Cove where, 70s, fell Playing_session_with_Edward_
Schneider_(alto_sax)_"Schneiderman seemed nearly that when he was
asked by a young girl in the Schneider says no one is coming out,
no humming, <k>denied Koresh Playing session with Edward
Schneider with Edward Schneider on tenor, which brings Edward
Schneider alto sax Edward Schneider alto sax - Edward Schneider,
alto sax, a bit of singing! Edward Schneider, Schneider, Azure
Carter and the sweet bird of paradise, and least one great
review! The album, with Azure Carter, Edward Schneider, Chris
2014 Finally, have a new album, with Chris Diasparra and Edward
Schneider, on 2014 Our new cd with Azure's songs and my playing,
backed by Edward Schneider Schneider, with cover images from the
work we've done in the Edward Schneider. I'm really happy with
this - the music is Schneider: Cutting Board Edward Schneider,
alto saxophone Alan Sondheim with Christopher Diasparra and
Edward Schneider Diasparra (on tenor and baritone) and Schneider
(on alto), who, Alan Sondheim with Christopher Diasparra & Edward
Schneider, tenor and baritone saxes, and Edward Schneider on the
alto sax. improv more than free jazz per se, though Schneider and
With Chris Diasparra!, Edward Schneider!, Jackson Moore!
Diasparra/Edward Schneider ESP-Disk' album Cutting Board and
Schneider Edward Schneider, alto sax Schneider-Sondheim
Apocalyptic Improvisations Sat for Frank Scha for DS Schell, for
Schneider for Roddy Schr songs and my playing, backed by Edward
Schneider ... 2015 I do a Schneider, and myself. The Studio was
Michael Hamburger's, in Brooklyn. Roy Schneider Trudy Asia Asia
Asia riscatto alante Motel session Edward Schneider
================== AVATARS amazingly Finally, album, Schneider,
Edward Schneider Lynne Sachs Eric Rickstad Amir Parsa Various
bird. music! footprint shale, Schneider records. Photographed
spot Peggy's Cove where, 70s, fell Edward Schneider, alto; Alan
Sondheim, guitar

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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2020 16:53:27 +0100
From: Graziano Milano <grazmaster@googlemail.com>
To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity
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Cc: Edward Picot <julian.lesaux@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] 60 years ago today - music transmission
        across 4 generations of Catlows
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Hi Ruth,

My sister has all the bed sheets, table cloths, doilies, etc.. that my mum
embroidered. Here are four of my baby aprons that she embroidered after I
was born in May 1967. And some drawings printed on tissue paper that my mum
embroidered to decorate the fabric of her bed sheets.

My mum was born in 1928 and during those times in Italy her generation were
only able to go to primary state schools from the age of 6 to 11. The
secondary schools were private and expensive. So my grandparents, as they
were both busy working at making and selling cakes, ice-creams, granitas,
etc, sent my mum to the local catholic convent where the nuns were running
embroidery workshops to a group of young girls. I remember my mum telling
me how she really enjoyed those creative workshops. Then when I was a child
both my older sister and my mum constantly entertained me by drawing
together and telling me the histories of our local village.

[image: MyBabyAprons_GrazMum.jpg]
[image: BedSheetDrawing_GrazMum.jpg]

On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 14:44, Michael Szpakowski <m@michaelszpakowski.org>
wrote:

> What a marvellous marvellous photo Ruth! Thanks for sharing it with us
> all...
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>
> On Saturday, June 27, 2020, 3:31 pm, Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
> All the Wowzers!
>
> I especially love the accompanying documents. Michael I remember being
> bowled over by The Enemy of the People when I first saw it all those years
> ago.
> Helen, Gretta, Graziano do you have photos of your family's needlework and
> knitting?
>
> Here is the photo I mentioned.
>
> [image: image.png]
>
> Hurrah!
> :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 9:35 AM Mark Hancock <mark@memecortex.net> wrote:
>
> I'm loving these, please keep sharing. The thing I inherited was less a
> skill, and more an attitude. My Dad was a brickie from Birmingham who had a
> love of jazz and classical music. So I grew up in a household full of
> literature and music. That idea that no matter your 'station in life' or
> your education, arts are there for everyone, from high to low culture (if
> those distinctions even exist still), still drives and informs the way I
> approach art today.
>
> And I'm definitely jealous of your father, Edward. I'd love to have
> written for the British Transport films! Or GPO.
>
> M
>
> On Thu, 25 Jun 2020 at 22:51, Edward Picot via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
> I love this thread!
>
> My father was Paul Le Saux, who used to write scripts for British
> Transport Films. They made travelogues, part-documentary and part-artsy,
> about various aspects of the railway network, and the places in Britain to
> which the trains could take you.
>
> I always used to assume that I got my creativity from him, and he
> certainly encouraged me to write when I was young. He died when I was six
> years old. But actually I think I also inherited quite a lot from my
> maternal grandfather, who was a merchant seaman, an engineer, and later a
> foreman at the docks in Belvedere on the Thames. In his spare time he was
> also a bellringer, and I've got some notebooks of his, in which he wrote
> out peal-sequences for different numbers of bells.
>
> Edward
>
> On 24/06/2020 23:50, Michael Szpakowski wrote:
>
> I can't claim any great cultural heritage apart , on my UK side,  from an
> intimate knowledge of the Methodist Hymn book, and the fact my mother late
> into her life desperately regretted that she'd never been able to learn the
> accordion, which she had *so* wanted to do instead of the piano.
> She also only ever wrote one poem, at school, and it was clearly important
> to her, this creative act, because she remembered & recited it to the end
> of her life:
>
> *See the little Daisy bright*
> *Standing there, all through the night*
> *Pink tipped petals, golden centre*
> *Let us go to the castle and enter.*
>
> Whatever frustrated creative drive she had, she later channeled into an
> almost supernatural ability to make house plants of all varieties grow and
> thrive.
> My Dad was entirely uninterested in culture except for the Saturday pm ITV
> wrestling and Cossack dancing displays. He did however love nature with a
> passion and I inherited that.
> As for documents -a couple of weeks ago my cousin Jaros?aw sent me a piece
> of testimony from my father which must have been given in 43 or 44 & has
> been in the Hoover collection  in the States ever since.
> When he related this he was three years younger than my daughter is now.
> One of my very first pieces of 'net art' (sounds quaint now) made in
> Director, but now just a piece of video, dealt with the same subjects.
>
> The testimony:
> https://bit.ly/37ZZcns
>
>
> The piece:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYPBBYPyzxA
>
> cheers
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 23, 2020, 10:18:04 AM GMT+1, Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour
> <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org>
> <netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Renee and Mark,
> I too would like to hear of other's creative/skill inheritances. Nice idea
> Mark... go for it.
> <3
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:13 AM Mark Hancock <mark@memecortex.net> wrote:
>
> I second Ren?e's thoughts. I love that idea that playing is bringing the
> past back in such an active and evocative way.
>
> I'd be interested in the creative skills and tools of the trade that other
> people on the list have inherited, if I may be so bold as to high-jack your
> email thread, Ruth?
>
> Mark
>
> On Tue, 23 Jun 2020 at 09:59, Renee Turner <geuzen@xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
> That?s beautifully moving Ruth <3  This post made my day.
>
> warmly,
>
> Ren?e
>
> -._.-._.-._.- R*
>
>
> ****************************
> a virtual embrace
> wishing health & well-being to all
>
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2020, at 10:44 AM, Ruth Catlow via NetBehaviour <
> netbehaviour@lists.netbehaviour.org> wrote:
>
> I have been playing my violin again since lock down and I came across this
> sheet music for the second 2nd Bach Partita that I played when I was much
> younger.
>
> You can see from the inscription that it was a birthday present from Rolf,
> my paternal grandfather, to his father exactly 60 years ago today.
>
> My dad John, who was a professional cellist, has a photo from this time of
> the three generations of men playing chamber music: Dad on cello, Rolf on
> the piano, and my great grandfather, Arthur, playing the violin.
>
> <image.png>
>
> There is something very moving to me about this cultural inheritance, and
> I wanted to share it with you all :)
>
> warmly
> Ruth
>
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